[18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby EagleEye » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:31 pm

justvisiting wrote:
brasca wrote:You don't have to be Leah to hate that song.


Preach it.


I agree. I find the comic itself amusing, but I have issues with the song.

And now to contradict that statement by saying that I think the lyrics are misquoted in the comic strip, since I'm pretty sure it's just "Hope my boyfriend don't mind it," or else maybe "I hope my boyfriend don't mind it" and she says "I" really quickly. I'm nearly certain the word "sure" does not appear, as it messes up the rhythm.

(The song is just too catchy. I know the words even though I don't want to.)
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Valerie » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:35 pm

Yeah, I don't think there's a "sure."

The only issue I really had with that song was that it was reinforcing the "bisexuals sleep with everyone" stereotype... Plus the part where she's cheating on her boyfriend. (She hopes he doesn't mind it, which means the poor guy's in the dark.)

Funny tangent: My mom changed the station when that song came on because she didn't want my younger sisters to hear it. Instead, they listened to "Just Lose It" by Eminem. Wholesome entertainment for the whole family!
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby eveninggates » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:48 pm

Valerie wrote:

Plus the part where she's cheating on her boyfriend. (She hopes he doesn't mind it, which means the poor guy's in the dark.)


At least there's some ambiguity in this song. I've known lots of couples where kissing other people without advance notice was completely above board. And it sounds to me like she intends to go home and tell him. But the original song is clearly about two women cheating on their male partners and briefly feeling guilty about it.
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby brasca » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:50 pm

Valerie wrote:Yeah, I don't think there's a "sure."

The only issue I really had with that song was that it was reinforcing the "bisexuals sleep with everyone" stereotype... Plus the part where she's cheating on her boyfriend. (She hopes he doesn't mind it, which means the poor guy's in the dark.)

Funny tangent: My mom changed the station when that song came on because she didn't want my younger sisters to hear it. Instead, they listened to "Just Lose It" by Eminem. Wholesome entertainment for the whole family!


People like Leah should lighten up, but I think the song is an example of what she hates about people who think it's naughty to kiss girls and act like they are so daring for doing so. Lisa isn't one of those, but it's possible she got a Katy Perry vibe from her and dismissed her without ever finding out more. I sympathize to an extent because Leah is a lesbian and cannot switch back when it's inconvenient, unpopular, or even dangerous.
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Valerie » Tue Apr 17, 2012 11:53 pm

brasca wrote:I sympathize to an extent because Leah is a lesbian and cannot switch back when it's inconvenient, unpopular, or even dangerous.


Yeah, I have a little bit of... ...is it like survivor guilt? Because I ended up with a guy. My life is going to be easier for it.
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Alice Macher » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:07 am

And although Tamar and I ended up with each other... as bisexuals, either of us could have married a guy, whether because either of us met him before/instead of each other, or (less romantic, but it still happens, due to family pressures, religious convictions, or both) because either felt it more important to pass as straight. Again, a lesbian doesn't have that option, at least not without having to deny her sexual orientation (or fulfill it covertly, whether through extramarital affairs [tsk tsk] or an unadvertised open marriage by agreeement with the husband).
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Arky » Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:12 am

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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Trefle » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:19 am

OH, Leah. I tend to hate that song too (honestly; first pop album!Katy is too ... eugh, for me. It's like she's attempting to be the bitchier edgier Zooey Deschanel) but Leah's face in this is...
...well. Appropriately funny.
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Zanosuke Kurosaki » Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:33 am

justvisiting wrote:
brasca wrote:You don't have to be Leah to hate that song.


Preach it.


Ack, yes! On the one hand, "yay! Leah is being annoyed!" On the other, "Augh, while it's great that we're finally, as a society, moving around to a point where people can hear a song about a girl admitting to having enjoyed kissing another girl, why must it be that song that causes me to wish to pound my head into the wall repeatedly??? Sexual identity is not something to be taken so lightly the way the song is doing, argle-bargle *commence foaming and being dragged away by lab-coat types* " Mild inconvenience to Katy Perry!*

*Despite loathing that song, I can't bring myself to wish death upon her. >.>;

Edit to Add: Also! I remember that "first" Kissed a Girl song! In fact, I first became aware of it through Beavis and Butthead, too (I recall it being about 2 pm on a summer afternoon, too hot to be outside, and being too apathetic to change the channel that day.)
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Kamino Neko » Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:59 am

Captain LeBubbles wrote:I like to imagine someone is in that room, blaring that song specifically to annoy Leah. Don't want to name any names *stares at Lisa really hard* but I'm sure that's what's happening.


Nono...it's Sara who's doing it. To get a laugh out of Lis' and keep her from doing something bigger. >_>
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Lia S » Wed Apr 18, 2012 4:22 am

I agree with Leah about that song... actually I liked it first when I caught only a few bits of the lyrics and started disliking it when I noticed it wasn't just about liking kissing girls. Later someone introduced a parody to me which is about sexual harassment... does an awful parody make the original better? Anyway, Looking for that I found this thing with explicit lyrics and visuals instead, which I just have to share :mrgreen: .
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Captain LeBubbles » Wed Apr 18, 2012 7:18 am

I feel like I'm in a bit of a minority here, because the only reason I hate the song is the same reason I hate most pop music- because that's the only station we can pick up at work that isn't gospel and I hear it 8o gajillion times a day when I'm on shift.

*sigh* It probably is a bad song, but hearing it so often has completely overpowered my ability to care.
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby FlyingFish » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:12 am

I dislike the song for a few reasons, most of them mentioned already, but right now the primary reason is that it is now STUCK IN MY HEAD. *finds something to flush it out with*
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby belniente » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:30 am

I remember when the song came out, and my livejournal friends list exploded with debate - rather than jump into that again, I'll just say I had little problem with the song until I saw just how exploitative (is that the right word? >.o) the video was. After I saw that, it seems to be just another heartless pop disaster to me.

But yes, that is the Best Leah Ever.
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Re: [18 Apr 12] I kissed a girl and I liked it

Postby Brook » Wed Apr 18, 2012 8:40 am

brasca wrote:People like Leah should lighten up, but I think the song is an example of what she hates about people who think it's naughty to kiss girls and act like they are so daring for doing so.


I think that's what bugs me about a lot of mentionings and portrayals of same sex relations. Don't get me wrong, now, "naughty" is great, but I'm tired of the notion that same-sex interaction of any kind is automatically so. (Like when people view a peck on the lips between two women or two men as "adult" while the same gesture between a man and a woman is PG rated.)

And at the same time, I can understand if, in one person's world, it is daring. Narrow reference frames and social circles can cause them to really feel that way. And I know I've superficially brushed things off because they would have been too charged to even "touch" otherwise. (Always been very sensitive.)

I'd also like to say for the 1995 song (which I never heard before, thanks to whoever posted that link) that it looks like it's set in older times, and it wasn't always possible to say to your guy "Sorry, I'm in love with my best lady friend" because you could get arrested and /or lobotimized for that. Not saying that makes cheating a good thing, but context does a lot.

Zanosuke Kurosaki wrote:while it's great that we're finally, as a society, moving around to a point where people can hear a song about a girl admitting to having enjoyed kissing another girl, why must it be that song that causes me to wish to pound my head into the wall repeatedly??? Sexual identity is not something to be taken so lightly the way the song is doing, argle-bargle *commence foaming and being dragged away by lab-coat types* " Mild inconvenience to Katy Perry!*


Baby steps, I hope. The more harmless something seems, the easier it is to make people accept it. That said, I don't care much for the song since 1. it frames the girl/girl kiss as shock/kink material and 2. it reminds me of all the people who talk as though (heterosexual) love is the biggest thing in life, but anything-non-heterosexual is side notes and games. Something that may not be harmful but can't possibly compare to a heterosexual relationship.
That said, I giggle with blaster Lisa too and agree with Brasca above; Leah really needs to lighten up. :D
(Thank you for sticking to "mild inconvenience". It gets me down when anyone wishes serious harm on anyone. But sometimes I do wish a bucket of cold water on some people. ;p)
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